Welcome to my Archives for 2005. Please don't edit this but feel free to leave comments on my Discussion (talk) Page. MichaelH 14:27, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
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Hey, MichaelH, and welcome to the WordPress Codex. If you are considering contributing, please review the following: ... Again, welcome and let us know how we can help you help us on the WordPress Codex. Lorelle 19:50, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for all the thank yous. We all appreciate it, but do be careful as there are many working on the Codex that tend to not get recognized, and we hate the hurt feelings, so one big group hug is more than plenty.
So what are your "intensions"? I've always wanted to say that. Anyway, how can we help you help us? And thanks for everything, yourself. Lorelle 02:47, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
So yeah, "stylized" is one of my pet peeves. Things that are "stylized" use artistic (or literary, or etc.) conventions for a non-natural or nonspontaneous effect - big eyes on cartoon characters, or kabuki theater, that sort of thing. "Styled" things have merely been made consistent with a look or fashion or set of rules. So it might be appropriate to use "stylize" when the CSS specifically invokes the conventions of web design (e.g. making visited links "dim") or achieves an overall abstract look. For generic cases, though, "style" is the better choice.
Thanks for all your work, hooray for editing! :)
yami 15:56, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I know it's not fun, but since you didn't jump in with any specifics (see, that's what you get for not being specific ;-) ) one thing that is desperately needed is to go through the Special:Wantedpages Wanted Pages section. Miss-explained, this page is NOT for articles that are currently "wanted" to be written, but links from within articles to pages that don't exist. These need to be corrected.
How this needs to work takes some serious concentration. It ain't fun, but it requires a keen eye for detail, which you've already proven. When someone writes an article or edits it, and they put in a link to another article, it doesn't take much to screw up the link. We continue to have problems between the_loop and The_Loop as links within the Codex. They both are working...now, but not always. A missed cap, or Localization being spelled Localisation kinda thing can make a link to a working page - miss.
I keep two to three windows or tabs in my browser open in order to do this. From the Special:Wantedpages page, click on the "red" link to the article. You will come to an edit page. DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING IN THERE. On the sidebar to the right, in the third box down just below the search, you will see a link to what links here. Click on that for a list of articles that link to this article that doesn't exist. Either click on one of these or Right Click and Open a new tab or window with the article (especially if there are more than two or three links to this article). Search within the article for the link to that wrongly named page. They are usually red. From another window or tab viewing the Codex, do a search and find the correct article. COPY THE LINK from the browser (skip the codex.wordpress part) and then return to the previous article and click EDIT and search for the link and paste in the correct link. When you preview, the red should be gone and the link should look blue again. Then on to the next.
The Codex will automatically change the count of how many "wanted pages" are wrongly linked, or take the page off the list when fixed, either way, there are now a ton of these and we need to clean them up and make this list something really important, like a list of articles that are really wanted and not screwups in the links. I've poked at these a lot, which makes my name show up a lot on the Recent Changes pages - like this is hard work...hee hee...and the list is more manageable now, but as more articles come in, more bad links pop up.
I'll be posting a note about this on the WP-docs mailing list soon, so any help would be seriously appreciated. There is nothing more frustrating for the user than clicking a link to an article that they think will help them and ending up on a blank screen that invites them to type something in. Bad stuff and not good for the Codex reputation.
And keep punching, slicing, and dicing the articles as you see fit and post a note in the article's discussion area if you have a question about wording or concept. The writers and section overseers check in from time to time to monitor their pages, so they'll fix it or answer your question. Keep up the great work! Lorelle 18:43, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
See, you never know what you get when you ask. Carthik, supreme commander, went in and did short work of those links you asked about. That was FAST! Thanks! Lorelle 18:20, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi Michael,
If you find pages that deserve to be deleted, like the Talk page for the 5minuteInstallation page, then please add {rfd} to that page at the top. I, and other maintainers will know that it has been marked for deletion and will delete it in due course. Talk pages without the corresponding pages are candidates for such deletion, since, in all probability, those talk pages were not deleted when the corresponding page was, due to oversight.
thanks,
Micheal, you said: >Regarding marking pages for deletion, I will be glad to add the {rfd}.
>I've encountered some pages in DoubleRedirects that are NOT linked to by any other page. Should I mark these for deletion also?
Which DoubleRedirect pages are we talking about? I checked the list of double redirects a moment ago. Let me know if there are pages I should know of.
>I ask because I thought a #REDIRECT was the only thing allowed on a 'redirected' page--examples are Make a Directory Writable, Permalink Structure, and Upgrading. Thanks and let me know. MichaelH 19:46, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
I can see only a #Redirect on those pages, so what is the issue? Some redirect pages are preserved since they are extensive linked-to from pages outside of the Codex, like random blogs, and other webpages on the Internet which we have no control over, and can't edit. So the redirects are preserved to ensure that visitors who come here following those links dont face a 404, and instead are directed to a useful page. The pages you mention are examples of those, and we might have these redirect pages around for a while.
If in doubt, mark it as an RFD, and I or someone else might just remove the RFD later :)
I got another project for you. Matt has given out a list of articles/documentation from other similar program sites, and I'm going through that list to see what is missing that we need. One of them is an article that offers the "semantics" of WordPress. Like a glossary, it names the jargon and parts and pieces of WordPress that people need to know when talking about it. Words like Pages, Posts, Loop, Categories, User Levels, Templates, Template Tags, and...well, the words that are "unique" or have a special "use" within WordPress. A page is a page is a page, but in WordPress, there are pages as in web pages and pages as in posts and Pages as in individual Pages...get where I'm going.
We need to create an article/list of the various semantic expressions used to describe the parts, functions, and bits of WordPress. Up to it? Lorelle 15:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
I see you adding terms to the glossary. Thank you. That has been past due and needing fixing. How's the article on semantics coming? Just checking in. Lorelle 22:11, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome ... I'm working my way through your task list :)
At the mo, I have a couple of questions:
During registration and in the preferences, it says that my email can be used for people to send me mail through the system. I can't find any way to do that. Is the user talk page the only way to message someone? On yours and others that I've inspected it seems to intrude on the discussion of your work.
If I edited a page (perhaps tagged for edit) correcting a lot of spelling and grammar, but without altering the information content, should I tag the edit minor, to save people looking for new info, or not, so that someone can note that it's been fixed?--Al-khowarizmi 16:38, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
Michael, I generally don't post the welcome message on old users' pages, unless they did a recent edit. My guess is that a new user is more likely to return, and be encouraged to contribute more. The old users might have registered only to make one, or two changes :)
Michael, Lorelle That's only a welcome message on those pages. If that provides them with the thrust to create a user page, and generally get involved, so be it. The number of non Main: namespace pages is not a concern. The real documentation pages should be trim and tight, always. The talk pages are meant for being used liberally :)
Sorry, Michael. I might have saved over some of your things on the FAQ Installation example. Check the History to grab any difference. That's the problem with two people working on things at the same time. I was hoping to seek in before you got up. Lorelle 16:13, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I was just online at IRC #mediawiki asking when your note popped up on the Codex. $#%*(@#$ - Don't ask. All I know is that we have to get Carthik or Matt to get into the source and "Check out the toc* functions in Skin.php" to style us a FAQ TOC that will force it to the left. I almost asked Matt but I got a phone call and he left the #wordpress chat, so I'll have to hit him later for an answer. Carthik has finals. We'll get to it.
Without templates, though, we still have to do double the work to make a master FAQ page, if we decide to go with that. Choices. Desicions.
In the meantime, I blew out the template example in the sample page and put in the clear:both, which we will need to drop it below the TOC anyway, and we can go from there until we get it to pop over to the left. I also did a quickie clean up of the example FAQ.
Using PRE layout, we REALLY have to watch the long lines as they ARE the length they are. Makes for ugly stuff, so when I can, I force a line break in them. Buggers. When I can't, I either fake a DIV that emulates the PRE look so it will naturally wrap or leave them alone. I also added <br /> to a couple of the blockquotes as the line breaks weren't working. Minor stuff.
Looking great! We'll have something wonderful to show for the meeting tomorrow. Lorelle 22:28, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Just found out that only Matt can change the Codex format. Talking to him today about it. Lorelle 14:36, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Quick Note: Check the Codex:Tasks as someone else has signed up to help "welcome" and see if you two can coordinate, take turns, have that person do it while you are unavailable, whatever. Thanks. Lorelle 02:06, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Michael: We've had someone working on the FAQs (old ones) because they had copyedits on them. Nothing has to happen now, but this is a reminder to both of us that we need to intergrate those "fixes" and additions into the new FAQ. Thanks. Lorelle 13:45, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Just a reminder: We need to go through the FAQs and EVERYWHERE there is a reference to the Admin Panel stuff, we need to link to the Administration Panels page such as Administration > Manage > Posts
I usually grab the link from the pink boxes that list all the different areas. Thanks. Lorelle 19:24, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi Michael. I have talked to Lorelle and I would really enjoying working on the FAQs. She said they are "your baby", so I wanted to ask your permission before I signed up and pitched in under that category. Thanks so much and I look forward to helping. Spirit892
Other MediaWiki based FAQs
I just added a new section on plugin submission and promotion to the Writing a Plugin article. You might want to review/add/link to it from your new article. Lorelle 14:19, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've asked for permission from Carthik to post a note on every user's user page about the Codex Cleanup. If he doesn't have an easy way of doing this automatically, we're going to have to do this manually. I'd like to ask you and Boneill to help me do this by dividing things up alphabetically. I'll come up with the template or text for us to paste. Whatcha think? Lorelle 15:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi Michael, thanks for welcoming me on Codex. -- Mathias Schindler 12:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Category stuff
*brainstorming [[Category:Introduction]] [[Category:Troubleshooting]] [[Category:Customizing]] [[Category:Modifying]] [[Category:FAQ]] [[Category:Design]] [[Category:Development]] [[Category:Blog Administration]] [[Category:Themes]] [[Category:Templates]] [[Category:Installation]] [[Category:CSS]] [[Category:Communication]] [[Category:Getting Started]] [[Category:Special Installations]] [[Category:Spam]] [[Category:How To]] [[Category:Help]] [[Category:Lessons]] [[Category:Tutorials]] *defined by current menu structure [[Category:Getting Started with WordPress]] [[Category:Installation]] [[Category:Special Installations]] [[Category:Installation Troubleshooting and Help]] [[Category:Posting in WordPress]] [[Category:WordPress for Beginners]] [[Category:File and Plugin Management]] [[Category:WordPress Support Forum]] [[Category:Working with WordPress]] [[Category:WordPress Features]] [[Category:User and Author Features]] [[Category:Administration Features]] [[Category:Site Development]] [[Category:Fighting Comment Spam]] [[Category:International Features]] [[Category:Design and Layout]] [[Category:Basics of WordPress Site Design]] [[Category:WordPress and CSS]] [[Category:Themes and Templates]] [[Category:Customizing WordPress]] [[Category:CSS Troubleshooting]] [[Category:Frequently Requested Design Help]] [[Category:Advanced Topics]] [[Category:WordPress Advanced Techniques]] [[Category:WordPress Plugins and Customization]] [[Category:Server and Database Information]] [[Category:Help Improve WordPress]] [[Category:Troubleshooting]] [[Category:Finding Answers]] [[Category:Installation Problems]] [[Category:Design and Layout Troubleshooting]] [[Category:Comment Spam]] [[Category:Solving Common Problems]] [[Category:Developer Documentation ]] [[Category:About WordPress]] [[Category:Announcements]] *already defined [[Category:WordPress Lessons]] [[Category:WordPress Help]]
I left you some notes with error_bot, but here are more. And I hope you are having a great time. Can't wait for details.
Okay.
1. Can you look at these? See if we can find a place to move it to in the Codex. Podz has given permission for his stuff but it may need reviewing.
2. Can you please clean up the links to this: Import Links SubPanel and make sure that all the references in Administration Panels that need to go to this page are set. Thanks!
Spirit892 Hi Michael. For the past few days, I have been going through the FAQS and checking links, spelling, and grammar. I've done a lot of the pages. Just to give you a heads up.
Consider merging these two (User:Podz/Filelisting and User:Podz/Permissions) into one article Standard Files and Permissions Version 1.5.1.2. Use the structure from Filelisting and put the suggested Permission by each Directory and File. Alternative consider subpage for each WordPress version???
Link to the new article from FAQ Developer Documentation, Changing_File_Permissions, FAQ Installation, FAQ Troubleshooting
Categorize in [[Category:Installation]], [[Category:Getting Started]], [[Category:WordPress Development]]
The DNS is the Domain Network Server and it is the "database" of domain names. It is the "inter" in internet. To add more DNS:
This adds alternative DNS to your list as a backup for when things go bork. Lorelle 15:03, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Back in 2000/2001 when I was using dialup, I would do this. It used to work, at times.
That makes your PC keep pinging your host, and sometimes this helps keep the connection alive, and stops your host dropping it. Sometimes webhosts drop connections that seem dead. Especially if you aren't doing much but being on IRC, the data transfer is so little that your host may assume that you are inactive. Hope this helps. Lastnode 15:08, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The Codex Documenation Team and all of WordPress thank you for your time, effort, and contributions during this past Codex Cleanup Week. It has been amazing. Over twenty new documents were added, and more are still in the works that will be released over the next couple of weeks. The entire Codex is now categorized, improving the ability of users to find the related information they are looking for.
The next big Codex-related event is WordPress Backup Week July 23-30. The project will promote backing up your WordPress database and site for the user's protection and further develop the relationship between the Codex and the WordPress Support Forum. Documentation volunteers will be cleaning up and expanding the backup and restore information on the site and Forum volunteers will be readied to help users in the Forum walk through their site backups. We need your help.
We are also starting a page for information and sign up for a variety of Fundraising and Promotions Events for WordPress and your help is needed there, too.
Thanks again for helping.
Lorelle and the whole Cleanup Codex volunteer team
MichaelH--think about adding a micro category for Templates which would include everything in "Templates" and start designating articles related to template files like Designing Headers, Customizing Your Sidebar, etc. Left by User:Lorelle on IRC
Lorelle wanted to know what the status of the old FAQ. Are they all moved over? If so, rfd them and Lorelle will take care of them when she is able. --Schulte 15:46, 30 Aug 2005 (GMT)
Great. What are your thoughts on New User permissions? I assume that page is kinda talking about the 1.6 structure (nothing links to it at the moment -- should it be alive at exist at all?)...should it be integrated with User Levels (when the time is right, of course)? --Schulte 16:26, 30 Aug 2005 (GMT)
I've move the corrupted spanish pages to Problemas al iniciar sesión and Localización de WordPress and added them both to the copyedits list as the content of them both looks very corrupted. Good Catch! --Westi 14:06, 31 Aug 2005 (GMT)
Thanks, MH, for all that you are doing to keep an eye on things and clean things up. I was hoping to be fully back online but Rita took out power and caused more damage around us, so the work continues. Ugh. It "should" slow down by the end of the week. Unless more comes our way. You know, it's your fault - all those hurricane jokes. YOU YOU YOU YOU. I blame you. Cuz I know you can take it. :D Lorelle 14:16, 28 Sep 2005 (GMT)
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Could someone take the WordPress Backup Button from this page: http://codex.wordpress.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=21488 and put it on the current version of Main Page. Then change the description and date to "WordPress Bug Hunt - November 5". Thanks for the help on this! Guess you have to unProtect Main Page first...
I have added the requested categories to Giving WordPress Its Own Directory
--Westi 18:38, 26 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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